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it's not the same to give automated credit, even if you can technically do it
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Unfortunately, well-intentioned people (including me!) pushed it through anyway. Similarly, open hardware proponents have tried to stretch copyright to cover functional works, with predictably messy results.
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copyright-based copyleft licenses are a dead-end if the work is not copyrightable, but patent or trademark based solutions might be an option
Without copyright, the conditions baked into OSS/CC become legally meaningless. The “stick” that backs them up disappears.
Within the world of copyrightable stuff, these limitations are enforceable because failing to follow them voids the license. And without a license, the now-unauthorized sharing is a violation of the creator’s copyright.
Among other things, this has allowed to OSS/CC community to impose its ethos on people who do not care about openness. Threat of a copyright lawsuit means people and companies who just want to access the shared stuff have to play by the openness rules too.
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Eben Moglen has often pointed out that anyone who attacks the GPL is at a disadvantage, because if they somehow show that the license is legally invalid, then they get copyright’s “default”: which is to say, they don’t get anything. So they are forced to fight about the specific terms, rather than the validity of the license as a whole.
In contrast, in much of the world (and certainly in the US), if you show that a database license is legally invalid, then you get database’s default: which is to say, you get everything. So someone who doesn’t want to follow the copyleft has very, very strong incentives to demolish your license altogether.
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goes into motivations for the attempt at copylefting data
Unfortunately, many people have a good-faith desire to see copyleft-like results in other domains. As a result, they’ve gone the wrong way on this point.
ODbL is probably the most blatant example of this: even at the time, Science Commons correctly pointed out that ODbL’s attempt to create database rights by contract outside of the EU was a bad idea.
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