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I would for example add {{P|27}} and {{Q|1117}} as qualifiers typically added under {{P|10}}. Thoughts {{reply_to|Podehaye}} {{reply_to|Hanz0mon}}? -- [[User:Alexbfree|Alexbfree]] ([[User talk:Alexbfree|talk]]) 15:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | I would for example add {{P|27}} and {{Q|1117}} as qualifiers typically added under {{P|10}}. Thoughts {{reply_to|Podehaye}} {{reply_to|Hanz0mon}}? -- [[User:Alexbfree|Alexbfree]] ([[User talk:Alexbfree|talk]]) 15:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
| − | : {{reply_to|Alexbfree}} yes, we should seek to extend this technique to have the expressivity you are seeking with the page [[Project:Vocabulary/GDPR]]. | + | : {{reply_to|Alexbfree}} yes, we should seek to extend this technique to have the expressivity you are seeking with the page [[Project:Vocabulary/GDPR]]. |
| − | :: {{reply_to|Podehaye}} erm, well, it is showing the source of this specific {{P|10}}-snak, so I think that makes it a qualifier, right? A property, that is being used as a qualifier? I think some properties (such as {{Q|1048}}) could apply either as a qualifier on a snak or as a property on an Item - whereas some properties like {{Q|1117}} would apply typically only as a qualifier upon a snak. Right? If I am using concepts incorrectly, please let me know - it's certainly possible I have the wrong mental model! | + | == discussion about {{Q|1117}} == |
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| + | one comment though: you use {{Q|1117}} as a qualifier, but I think you mean a property, no? (also on [[Project:Vocabulary/GDPR]]). [[User:Podehaye|Podehaye]] ([[User talk:Podehaye|talk]]) 16:24, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :: {{reply_to|Podehaye}} erm, well, it is showing the source of this specific {{P|10}}-snak, so I think that makes it a qualifier, right? A property, that is being used as a qualifier? I think some properties (such as {{Q|1048}}) could apply either as a qualifier on a snak or as a property on an Item - whereas some properties like {{Q|1117}} would apply typically only as a qualifier upon a snak. Right? If I am using concepts incorrectly, please let me know - it's certainly possible I have the wrong mental model! [[User:Alexbfree|Alexbfree]] ([[User talk:Alexbfree|talk]]) 17:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :: {{reply_to|Podehaye}} Let me check I got this right: | ||
| + | * Snak = Property + Value (where value could be an Item, Property, text or something else). | ||
| + | * A snak directly upon an Item could be considered a property of that Item (a 'property snak', let's say) | ||
| + | * A qualifier would be a snak applied to a 'property snak'. A property of an Item property. | ||
| + | Is this right? [[User:Alexbfree|Alexbfree]] ([[User talk:Alexbfree|talk]]) 17:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
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qualifiers too?
This is a great idea. And that graph is fantastic! I wonder if we should add something similar "qualifiers for this property". I would for example add named as (P27) and source (Q1117) as qualifiers typically added under collects (P10). Thoughts @Podehaye: @Hanz0mon:? -- Alexbfree (talk) 15:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Alexbfree: yes, we should seek to extend this technique to have the expressivity you are seeking with the page Project:Vocabulary/GDPR.
discussion about source (Q1117)
one comment though: you use source (Q1117) as a qualifier, but I think you mean a property, no? (also on Project:Vocabulary/GDPR). Podehaye (talk) 16:24, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Podehaye: erm, well, it is showing the source of this specific collects (P10)-snak, so I think that makes it a qualifier, right? A property, that is being used as a qualifier? I think some properties (such as comment (Q1048)) could apply either as a qualifier on a snak or as a property on an Item - whereas some properties like source (Q1117) would apply typically only as a qualifier upon a snak. Right? If I am using concepts incorrectly, please let me know - it's certainly possible I have the wrong mental model! Alexbfree (talk) 17:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Podehaye: Let me check I got this right:
- Snak = Property + Value (where value could be an Item, Property, text or something else).
- A snak directly upon an Item could be considered a property of that Item (a 'property snak', let's say)
- A qualifier would be a snak applied to a 'property snak'. A property of an Item property.
Is this right? Alexbfree (talk) 17:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC)